April 10, 2004

"God is Just Pretend"

I left school on Friday to go to Philadelphia (which rarely happens) and I stayed home until early Monday morning. Unfortunately, I had to take a 7 hour train ride back when driving only takes 4-41/2 depending on the speed that you go. But anyways, the ride wasn't that bad until we reached Altoona. When we were passing through there was a sign that was huge and it read, "God is Just Pretend." Well that is all that I had to see to make me get all fired up. I personally respect any religion that you chose to be. Who am I to tell you that your wrong and I'm right.

To me if you have a faith that is moral you will be rewarded. That's the best way I could put it. That sign made me so mad! I do not go around telling people that there is no "Yahweh or Messiah or Muhammad" and everyone has to belive in Jesus because he's real. I do not care that that particular group of people do not belive in God, I am mad that they had the nerve to put that up there. The best part was it was written like a little kid wrote it. I swear I wanted to stop that train and go burn the house down. I believe everyone should say and tell people how they feel, but do not sit there a critize and put a sign up stating what you believe...like if someone else believes differently they are wrong. People think that I am blunt and mean or whatever else they call me, but I have respect for people and what they believe in. I don't think that they are wrong for beliveing that I think that they are wrong for advertising that to everyone in the world. I am Catholic and I def. do belive in God and Jesus and I think without them I would not be here. I just hope that God prays for that group of people who are so ignorant to write something like that for anyone to see it. Maybe if people had respect there would no be so much violence because I know if I was driving by that sign I would of got very violent and I would not be sorry. It amazes me how people are so arrogant and yet they do not see it.

Posted by GinaBurgese at April 10, 2004 5:50 PM
Comments

I cannot believe that there was a sign that posted that "God Is Just Pretend." Was it painted on it or vandelizism what? I guess every person is entitled to their opinion among their religions, but I agree with you, I would be highly offended since I am Catholic as well. If a person thinks otherwise about the Lord, then they should keep their comments to theirselves (Didn't we learn this in Preschool)?

Posted by: Firefighter Chica at April 4, 2004 2:09 PM

Personally I think everyone has the right to their own religion. No matter what it is. But no one should be able to ridicule some one by means of a display like this.

Gina if I were you I would have found a way back to that place and either rid the world of it personally or rid the world of the poor soul that had the guts to write it.

Posted by: Tammy Moon at April 15, 2004 6:21 PM

It's the title of a great children's book. I wish there were as many of those billboards as there are of the ones signed by god.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1877733059/102-7477753-5602501?v=glance

Posted by: spam hater at May 16, 2004 12:28 AM

It is funny that everyone who recently posted is getting "fired up" by what is simply the truth. Why do you think there are over 35,000 religions on this planet. There are no deities, only the natural world. The individual who posted "or rid the world of the poor soul that had the guts to write it" is suggesting homicide against a person who goes against their personal views...how sad can you be? Let me guess you are a weekend christian(someone who goes to a church to be seen by others and to tries to fit in).

Maybe the person who posted the "God is just pretend" (which all of them are), is sick of seeing all of the religious crap that is posted by others within the public relm all of the time. too bad for you.

There simply is no evidence of any deities at all within this world. Try and prove the existence of any if you would like to.

Posted by: Mark at June 20, 2004 10:02 AM

1) If a minister in PA can put up a billboard saying, "Salvation starts with fear of God", someone else can put up a sign that says "god is just pretend". Fear should have nothing to do with it. I thought it was all about love. And since this is America, it's also all about freedom.

2) You say that you "hope that God prays for that group of people who are so ignorant to write something like that for anyone to see it." Who, exactly, should God pray to? To God? Because that would kinda useless.

3) Firefighter Chica: we learned that we should be free to speak our minds. The history of America is based on this. We learned this in civics class, about 9th or 10th grade.

I was a philosophy major in college. I remember proving and disproving the existence of God in the same argument. It was fun.

Posted by: Brian at July 20, 2004 2:49 PM

GinaBurgese, sticking to your pattern of thought, “God” created the person or persons responsible for that sign. Who are you to question His wisdom? You can’t have it both ways…

Posted by: Chad Schwartz at September 14, 2004 3:41 PM

I think that the person who put up that sign showed real courage in doing so, especially in our dominantly conservative Christian society. Historically, it has never been easy to publicly be an atheist or agnostic, but it is even more difficult in these post 9/11 times, in this country.

Our President is a born-again Christian who is trying to shorten the gap between the Separation of Church and State. And in the current social climate, he may be, at least partially, successful.

I applaud this person for sharing his/her view. I wish more people would do the same. As an atheist myself, I'm tired of seeing churches with, "Believe or go to Hell," messages on their signboards. I'm tired of seeing crosses on the side of the road to mark vehicular tragedies. Where I live, in God's country, with His people, I also have to deal with full-sized billboards announcing that Jesus lives.

I do not have any problem with anyone's beliefs as long as it's not shoved down my throat. My wife is a devout Christian who is very close with the people in her church, and while I do not go with her on Sunday's, I am close friends with many of those same people, even her pastor. I'm a good, moral, family man, and they see that, so they have never once tried to convert me.

Why can't we live in a society where every person, or group, is accepted for who and what they are? Why do people feel the need to burn down a sign, or harm someone else because they disagree with what they believe? That's how wars are started. In case anyone is a bit confused, that's what that whole mess in the middle east is about. I don't just mean the mess the U.S. is involved in, but what's been going on there throughout history.

The simple fact is, no matter what a person believes, the aren't really going to know the truth of it until they die. But if a religion or a belief gives a person comfort, as long as it doesn't interfere with someone religion or belief, where's the harm?

Ideally, I'd like to see a society free of "Jesus Lives!" billboards, and, "God is Just Pretend," signs. But until people can accept each other for who they are, and not what they believe, I praise anyone who has the courage to not be shouted down by the masses for sharing their non-theistic views.

Posted by: Kyle at October 14, 2004 4:49 PM

You should of whakked that atheist to kingdom come!!! You should of killt that person just for thinking that!!! Its a thought crime!!! Or burn his house down! I mean, you can believe in a god - any god - or you can go to hell an start!!! Who'se arrogant now?!?

Posted by: Tolerant Matt at October 22, 2004 6:44 PM

K. Between George Bush and the Christians, we are in serious trouble in this country. If "Tolerant Matt" is an example of a typical fundamentalist xian, then there isn't any hope left in the world.

A Christian says, "God is love," and, "God is peace."

An atheist says, "Sorry, but God is just pretend."

The Christian says, "You should of whakked that atheist to kingdom come!!! You should of killt that person just for thinking that!!! Its a thought crime!!! Or burn his house down! I mean, you can believe in a god - any god - or you can go to hell an start!!!"

C'mon, is that really very "Christian?"

Sadly . . . . it is.

More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. To quote George Carlin:

"Hey if you read history, you realize that God is one of the leading causes of death. Has been for thousands of years. Hindus, Muslims, Jews, Christians, all taking turns killing each other because God told them it was a good idea. The sword of God, the blood of the land, vengence is mine, MILLIONS of dead mother f***ers. Millions of dead mother f***ers all because they gave the wrong answer to the God question. You believe in God? No. *bang* Dead. You Believe in God? Yes. Do you believe in my God? No. *bang* Dead. My God has a bigger d*ck than your God."

Why the hatred for someone who does not think the same as you, especially when that person does not believe, as you do, that there is a spirtual being who created us all in His image and likeness? Is this really what a supposedly loving god would want you to have in your heart?

Doesn't seem logical.

"If this being is omnipotent, then every occurrence, including every human action, every human thought, and every human feeling and aspiration is also His work; how is it possible to think of holding men responsible for their deeds and THOUGHTS [my emphasis] before such an almighty Being? In giving out punishment and rewards He would to a certain extent be passing judgment on Himself. How can this be combined with the goodness and righteousness ascribed to Him? [Albert Einstein, Out of My Later Years (New York: Philosophical Library, 1950), p. 27.]

Just my opinion. But hey, I AM just a godless atheist who is going to burn in Hell afterall. And I DID quote George Carlin AND Albert Einstein in the same post. *GEEESH!*

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Posted by: Kyle at October 22, 2004 9:57 PM

Gina you say that the owners of the sign were "arrogant". Well I'm an athiest and yet I have to put up with seeing "God loves you", "The only way is God" etc signs around my town and yet I don't get angry like you so who's happier/more forgiving?

From a psychological point of view, your reaction has shown only that deep down you realise that God is only pretend because if you genuinly believed he was real you would have smirked and let it go knowing that you were right.

Think about it, when someone insults you with something that isn't true you laugh at it or let it go. But if someone says something that is true and insulting you get anry. That's exactly what's happened to you.

Posted by: Steve O at May 2, 2005 6:48 AM

Faith is not moral.

It's one of the worst types of lies--lying to yourself. When you have faith in something, you're lying to yourself about the odds that it's really true. If you actually HAVE a good reason to believe it's true, then you don't NEED faith, because you have solid evidence. Faith is by definition an extension of belief beyond what's reasonable; it's a lie from the start.

What's moral and honest is to believe each thing to the exact degree the evidence seems to merit, no more and no less. And there isn't any evidence for the existence of God, let alone the kind of overwhelming body of evidence that would be required for that idea to compete with science's understanding of the origin of the Universe.

There are two ways to understand how something works: You can just make something up and pretend it's right. That's called religion. The other way is to carefully look at what exactly you know, think about it logically, devise tests to check all your ideas, and develop your knowledge in a disciplined way to make sure you're actually getting it right. That's called science. These two ways of knowing are NOT EQUAL, because they are not equally likely to get the right answer. That applies to any question, including questions of origins. Only when you keep yourself honest, and refuse to take leaps of faith, can you get anyhere on a question. You may not have answers to every question you can ask, but honestly not knowing is better than dishonestly "knowing" as you do in religion.

The other bottom line is that faith is one of the top causes of violence in the world. It is the root of terrorism and many wars. Billions of people have died because of somebody else's superstition

Posted by: Jason at October 7, 2005 10:17 AM

I for one cannot tell anyone what or who to believe in. Personally....I do not believe in God anymore. Like other suckers, I used to. The bible states, "Ask, and you shall recieve." Well....I hate to bust your bubble firefighterchica....I always prayed and never recieved a damn thing from your God! I'm soo sick of people using 'God' as a crutch for their fucking insecurities and bullshit. And always hearing, "Oh, why don't you repent?" Repent to what? Into giving my hard earned dollars to a bullshit religion?! Christians make me laugh and they are the most fake people I've ever known. I'll give an example. I went to the same church with my grandmother every Sunday and watched people hold their hands up in the air and cry and shout Amen. After church we would all go to this restaraunt in town and eat. At least 50 people from the church would go. There was a homeless man outside that would beg for money and they would ignore him and I would hand him a couple dollars everytime! So called Christians go to church on Sunday and worship a homeless man and then ignore a homeless man right after church. How Christian is that fire fighter chica?!

Posted by: Kevin Hodge at June 20, 2006 4:29 PM

Hi Gina, It's not that I don't believe in god. There is no god to believe in. I was born without belief, as all human beings are, and had the concept of religion taught to me. As I grew up, I had more and more questions that could not be answered to my satisfaction. The most common answer that I ended up getting, after lengthy answer/question sessions, was "You just have to believe". Well, no I don't. It's completely unnecessary to believe. I'm totally satisfied with my life and I've been an atheist for 20 years. No thoughts of murder, rape, theft, just a deep respect for all human life. I can only hope that you theists can learn to accept and respect us to. Take in god we trust off my money and we'll consider removing our signs. Until then, god is just pretend! bye.

Posted by: Lenny at July 2, 2006 4:07 AM

Yeah OK burning houses down and vanadalizing billboards all sounds very christian to me where do I sign up?!?!

Posted by: The Devil at July 10, 2006 8:40 AM

You're a hippocrate and people like you are the reason that this world has so many things wrong with it. If people can ride around with all their anti-abortion stickers and little "jesus fish" on their cars or whatever, what's the problem with stating that you don't believe in god?

Posted by: Paul at November 1, 2006 5:35 PM

Gina, faith is NOT a virtue. Believing something without evidence is usually called delusion or insanity. When a handful of people have the same delusion, they're called cult members. When millions have the same delusion, it's called a religion

Posted by: William at November 14, 2006 3:32 PM

A person founds a wrist watch and knows there is a "watch-maker," -- it was designed. Every day we look in the mirror. Some know we have been wonderfully made, a humbling realization. Some see an odd coincidence of a random process that has left all the wrist watches in charge. In any event, time is running. And, when we meet our maker, my bet is that I won't be staring back at myself.

Posted by: GaryK51188 at February 3, 2007 8:05 AM

A person founds a wrist watch and knows there is a "watch-maker," -- it was designed. Every day we look in the mirror. Some know we have been wonderfully made, a humbling realization. Some see an odd coincidence of a random process that has left all the wrist watches in charge. In any event, time is running. And, when we meet our maker, my bet is that I won't be staring back at myself.

Posted by: GaryK51188 at February 3, 2007 8:07 AM

The old testament says that someone will be born in Bethlehem and he will be God in person form AND we will base our time system on his birth - before and after.

But don't believe because that...get spiritual gifts from Jesus like me and believe on the miracles.

During the 2004 tsunamis I told everyone it was the day of destruction for an hour straight...GIFT OF PROPHECY.

1 Corinthians 14:1

Posted by: oldbatman at April 9, 2007 11:42 PM
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