If America Is The Land For Life Love And The Pursuit of Happiness Then What Is Wrong With Same Sex Marriage

Just a little preview of where im coming from... My whole opinion on this topic has not been up for a debate until I read your ridiculous points you seem to bring up. I came researching on this topic to gather more information to support my viewpoints, however you have contradicted the point of my being on this website. Not only have my opinions on same sex marriages shifted, but I can strongly disagree with your statements knowing where I come from and how your viewpoints have absolutely nothing to back yourself up. Honestly, how can you put that religion has nothing to do with the constitution when religion is the basis of everything? Seriously think about the topic as a whole and not as a close minded person. Do your viewpoints make sense? I dont agree with the mistreating of those of diversity, however i strongly disagree with your opinions and the information you seem to use to back it up. :)

Carla Rae, I believe, as a Christian and follower of Word of God, that same-sex marriages should not even be an issue.
You continuously bring up the issue that we should not use religion as basis for out government. But in the beginning of our nation's existance, the Constitution was written by Christians, with their knowledge of the Religion and using the Word of God. I think that if the Constitution is part of your defense than you should realize that our country was started and established as a nation of Christianity.
That's just my view on the situation, you can agree or disagree.

This is all very interesting, but I'm unclear as to just what issue is being debated here.

If you do a google search, it's simple to find examples of the majority failing miserably to rule. According to Gallup, 74% of Americans want the Ten Commandments to be displayed, yet Roy Moore is suspended. 70% want spoken Christian prayers in public schools. And who needs to hear about Election 2000 again?

Why is anyone dwelling on this issue of religion? This is an issue of American politics and as such is subject to a separation between Church and State. I can't imagine anyone realistically expecting any religious body to endorse same-sex marriage. In such a debate, the Bible may strike down its supporters. For the issue at hand, the one document at our disposal is the U.S. Constitution, which ensures the fundamental rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

This is not about unions blessed in the eyes of God, it's about what will happen to a child should her birth mother pass away. It's about access to your loved ones in a medical emergency. It's a matter of taxes, of pensions, of health-care. These issues are secular and should be dealt with as such. I would personally not fight in favor of same-sex marriage. What I would fight for is a civil union that renders these benefits, demolishing class lines and taking the upper-hand away from those who do marry as prescribed by the Christian Church. In this nation, such a thing as a second-class citizen should be unheard-of.

Carla Rae, I just wanted to comment on two of the things you said. First of all, has our society so quickly forgotten the truth in the Word of God? (and no Carla, I don’t really care if there are those who don’t believe in God; God doesn’t believe in atheists and it doesn’t change the reality of truth, right, and wrong.) Romans 1:24 cannot be more clear or more abrasive to homosexual groups, “24Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
26For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality.”

Also, you speak in jest of taking away the rights minority groups have struggled so hard to get, but frankly it’s disgraceful to compare the moral sufferings of loyal followers of the Reverend Martin Luther King Jr. to the immoral passions of gay and lesbian agenda. The truth is, many followers of King are disgusted by the comparison: check out http://www.lifeway.com/lwc/lwc_cda_article/0%2C1643%2CA%253D153533%2526X%253D1%2526M%253D50088%2C00.html for more information.

We should not bow down to the whims of the immoral minority

Carla, I know that we already talked about this topic in our STW class, but why don't you bring it up on Thursday. I think it'd really spark some debate. Could this flare be a sign of what your research paper is about? :^) Just wondering. Glad to hear what you have to say.

America is based upon a democratic system, Carla--representative majority is supposed to rule.

Voters are (excuse the lack of a better euphemism) of an older generation, a more conservative sector of society. They are ruling this country because most of the "younger" generation is lazy on voting day.

I would love to know how many same-sex marriage candidates vote--or even the liberals that support the same-sex marriages.

We are free to vote for our representative leaders. We are free to write to them, petition them.

Do it--create the more independent and brave America that you envision. Make the minority the majority, if that is what you see.

And it is life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.-T.J. Declaration of Independence.

To comment on the blog response to John Haddad let me further express my view on the situation.
Just because we live in America, within the same country that does not mean we all have the same beliefs. What some may see as immorral others dont. And while I somewhat see why this issue is shunned (because the majority think its wrong) one has to wonder is it still ok to call American "The land of the Free and the Home of the Brave."
Yes, in an instant we can call America the land of the brave because people involved in these gay and lesbian relations are standing up and speaking out on what they think is considered "totally moral". So my question is now, are we takin away rights and priviledges of Americans.
If so, then why dont we just take it all back. Lets take away womens voting rights!! No, better yet, lets go back to Segregated school Systems! No, no, I got it! Lets have African Americans sit in the back of the bus again! Then everything will be orderly and moral! (Sarcasm)
As far as land of the free, were not free if we dont have the rights to marry who we want. We have many different races and ethnic groups in this country, some of which practice different religion and study different beliefs. It is ashame to think that with all of our acceptance of differences in this country we turn our backs on one.
It is one thing to say that you personally do not believe in marriage in the same sex, but to not accept others who wish to take part in this is simply not right.
(Ok ok Im getting off track)
The point is, America will never truly be the land of the free until we stop excluding only what the "majority" sees as immoral and accept some of the indifferences that society has within it and shine light on them.

Opps! Double posted. Sorry Carla, feel free to delte this and the second identical post :)

Carla Rae, to comment on President Bush's proposed Constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriages, the fact is that the American people do not support gay and lesbian marriages. That's an irrefutable fact that is being ignored by the minority, who, since they primarily associate with only like-minded people, think that they are actually in the majority. This is far from the truth.

In actuality, according to a February poll taken by Time-CNN, by no means a conservative group, "About 62 percent of registered voters oppose homosexual "marriage," compared with 30 percent who support it." You make the statement, “Recently president bush endorsed an amendmant that restricted same sex marriage. That has to make some people wonder what kind of country we live in if our own president wouldnt advocate what the people want." Obviously, no president can do everything that everyone wants but he can go by the majority.

Carla, the truth is the American people want to see righteousness in this land, not immorality. They do not want to open up the Pandora's Box of same-sex marriage. In his speech, President Bush said, "The union of a man and a woman is the most enduring human institution, honored and encouraged in all cultures and by every religious faith." In my opinion, there will always be those who try to buck the system. In this case, however, the truth is clear, and the facts unavoidable. Even their own party only supports these fanatical ideas when it is convenient. Do you remember who it was who signed the Defense of Marriage Act? It was none other that Democratic president Bill Clinton. This act prevented federal recognition of same-sex marriage as well as giving states the power to simply ignore same-sex licenses from outside their state. Why is this important? Simply put, the American people as a whole do not support homosexual marriage. For President Bush to succumb to the pressures of immoral minority groups just because they make a big stink, would be a grave disservice to the American people.

By the way, I ran a simple search on Yahoo to find out the poll information. You will soon see both sides of the fence if you do this and the truth will quickly emerge.

Carla Rae, to comment on President Bush's proposed Constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriages, the fact is that the American people do not support gay and lesbian marriages. That's an irrefutable fact that is being ignored by the minority, who, since they primarily associate with only like-minded people, think that they are actually in the majority. This is far from the truth.

In actuality, according to a February poll taken by Time-CNN, by no means a conservative group, "About 62 percent of registered voters oppose homosexual "marriage," compared with 30 percent who support it." You make the statement, “Recently president bush endorsed an amendmant that restricted same sex marriage. That has to make some people wonder what kind of country we live in if our own president wouldnt advocate what the people want." Obviously, no president can do everything that everyone wants but he can go by the majority.

Carla, the truth is the American people want to see righteousness in this land, not immorality. They do not want to open up the Pandora's Box of same-sex marriage. In his speech, President Bush said, "The union of a man and a woman is the most enduring human institution, honored and encouraged in all cultures and by every religious faith." In my opinion, there will always be those who try to buck the system. In this case, however, the truth is clear, and the facts unavoidable. Even their own party only supports these fanatical ideas when it is convenient. Do you remember who it was who signed the Defense of Marriage Act? It was none other that Democratic president Bill Clinton. This act prevented federal recognition of same-sex marriage as well as giving states the power to simply ignore same-sex licenses from outside their state. Why is this important? Simply put, the American people as a whole do not support homosexual marriage. For President Bush to succumb to the pressures of immoral minority groups just because they make a big stink, would be a grave disservice to the American people.

By the way, I ran a simple search on Yahoo to find out the poll information. You will soon see both sides of the fence if you do this and the truth will quickly emerge.