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But you shouldn't chastize the coach. The reporter may have also taken his quote out of context.

I, for example, joke around all the time about this school is almost all women. Sure, some of its vulgar--but I don't do it around anyone from the university or that could be associated. I also don't make very many vulgar jokes. I also do tell people the full story, when they make the jokes.

Why?

Pride. Pride that I am, in fact along with the rest of you, a Seton Hill University Griffin. Football is here, love it or hate, it's here. State your case, if harassment occurs, to the proper channels, and there's no problem.

I understand that a blog is a place to comment, but come on people. jeez. lighten up.

Evan, I believe you missed the point. The comment in question was chastizing the recruiter, ie, the coach. The fact that he was quoted as saying that Seton Hill is 70% women is what was being addressed. It is not a male bashing contest. We all realize that not all men look at women this way. But the fact that he said it makes it seem like that's what Seton Hill is becoming more geared toward. True, this is somewhat an emotional discussion, but instead of saying that the students entering the football will get an opportunity to study at a fine liberal arts university, or be able to be involved in many clubs and activities other than sports, he chose to sell the football team by the percentage of women here, and that is not emotional.

Before this turns into an oversiplified male bashing contest, I want to lay some facts down. 1. Not every man views women as sex objects. 2. Stereotypes hurt. 3. The individuals who do such vulgar things (ie: objectify women) should be punished and chastised as individuals.

I believe (and don't quote me on this one) that the average SAT scores of this freshman class are among the highest of the classes at Seton Hill. If all these males who represent the majority of this class are "large slobbering guys who aren't here to learn anything that isn't directly related to sports or partying," then the newly revised SATs must be a poor measure of college aptitude.

Fact: it is easy to point fingers at large groups of people.
Fact: it's easy to lose one's temper in the wake of a major change in college culture.
Fact: I can think of at least two counterexamples to keep a theory as just that: a theory.

I may not want a football team here either, but I will not reduce myself to blatant stereotypes and insults. Some of my friends in high school were football players and were also excellent students.

If we argue with emotions and not logic, we accomplish nothing. Pointing fingers and insulting only make the other side more oppositional. If we non-athletic people reduce ourselves to purely emotional arguments, we have just defeated our own purpose.

If we are to be mad at anyone, we should be mad at the recruiters. If that was the ploy to get men in here, that was wrong and should be addressed. This is not to say that objectifying women is right. No, doing that is very wrong. But, two wrongs don't make a right and certainly don't solve the tensions in our campus.

Nancy, just as a matter of record, a comment someone publishes in a weblog is fair game for quoting in an article, as long as you identify the source (as would be the case with any published writing), and as long as it doesn't look like you are claiming to have had a private interview with the source.

Leslie and Megan, I should interview you for my article or maybe I can quote you. When I went to high school, the preferential treatment that football players and male athletes in general received was frustrating.

"Snyder said he relied on two basic recruiting pitches: You have a chance to play, there's nobody in front of you; Seton Hill is 70 percent women."

Well, when I came in a year ago, I thought I was a student at this university; I thought I was here so that Seton Hill could teach me everything I wanted to know about history and secondary education.
Now I find that I'm here as a tool. A tool to recruit a bunch of large slobbering guys who aren't here to learn anything that isn't directly related to sports or partying.

I'm not easily offended. (In fact, I generally steer as far as I can from those radical man-hating women whom Rush Limbaugh has termed "Femi-nazis.)
But right now I feel like an object.
Once upon a time the mission of this university was to educate young women.
Now the mission of this university is apparantly to use its young women to bring the tuition cash rolling in. I feel like I'm being prostituted.

Oh geeze...I have such mixed emotions about Seton Hill's addition of this sport. My father seems to believe it will bring school unity and a more "fun enviroment" on weekends with the games and all. Honestly my experience so far with these football recruits has not been in their favor. I don't like hearing "hey baby, whats your name?" every time I walk by someone of the opposite sex that just so happens to play football. Maybe they will contribute more than that, but as of right now I am not sure.

Re-SHU Football:
Take it upon yourselves to make the change from boys to men and realize that vulgrarity is not the way to a girls heart.

"We recruited these kids and we get to mold them into what we want."

That sounds rather sinister.