April 18, 2005

Cheap [Expensive] Shot

If I decide to take a three-credit course (the internship at the Trib), I would have to dish out over $500 a credit, in addition to a part-time student fee.

I knew Seton Hill was an expensive school, but this is absurd. The only involvement I would be having is with my professor weekly over e-mail and in one, final paper. That's right, folks, $1500+ for a three-credit course for which I will not even have to enter Seton Hill's doors. Also, I have to register now; it is performed during the summer so the internship credits must be applied during the internship period.

Dr. Jerz is looking into making it a one-credit deal where I would be substituting the other two credits for something else, so maybe there is hope.

Sometimes, especially when I enter the little offices on the first floor of the Administration Building (i.e. Student Accounts, Financial Aid and now the Registrar's), I get the overwhelming urge to scream anything--everything that I feel. But I didn't today. I got on the elevator before I exploded and talked with SHU's archivist, Mr. Black.

He has a way to make even the stressful situation okay. By the time I got to the Publications Office, I was smiling again. This isn't the first time, though. He is always putting out Amanda-Bonfires in the office when things are going roughly during production. Werther's and Godiva chocolates are his extinguishers, and they do the trick.

Anyway, whatever happens with the internship, I realize that I am going to be incredibly poor after college. But that doesn't mean that I need more tacked onto that loan bill; I am NOT giving this up without a fight.

Posted by Amanda Cochran at April 18, 2005 8:38 PM | TrackBack

I agree that $1500 is way too much for an off-campus internship ... Hopefully Dr. Jerz' plan works.

As I said earlier, Mr. Black is definitely one of the coolest members of the faculty. ;) He's got one of the best jobs, too ... He gets to dig up all kinds of neat stuff from SHU's past, and then share it with others, which helps us (students) realize just how far SHU has come, and where/how all of its values and such originated. Like you mentioned today -- he should put more of the stuff out there on display for the public.

Posted by: ChrisU at April 18, 2005 9:14 PM

Your neighbor is very much in the same business as you are, he's just looking at school newspapers years and decades after they've been published. (He said he was very impressed with the Setonian lately, since during the 70s it was practically a single piece of paper.)

While the cost of that summer tuition certainly caught me by surprise, upon reflection I realize that you'd have to pay for the credits all the same if you took them during the year. It's just that this internship is offered only over the summer.

Another option is to try to go full-time over the summer, perhaps by taking another course at a community college. By doing so, perhaps you could lighten your load for an upcoming semester.

Meanwhile, I'll let you know as soon as I hear from The Powers that Be...

Posted by: Dennis G. Jerz at April 18, 2005 10:41 PM

I was hit with the same situation for my internship (which is also at the Tribune-Review). Because I already work for the Trib, when I officially called it an internship was up to me. So I sat down with Sr. Mary Kay and she showed me it would be cheaper to do the internship during the school year (that way if I maxed out my credits it would be half the price of doing it over the summer.) Unfortunately you're in a different situation where you HAVE to do it over the summer.

But if you look at any private college's credit rates for the summer, they are all around the price of SHU's. They are just playing things by the book.

Posted by: Mike at April 19, 2005 2:29 PM

Yes, SHU's going by the book... but it's not just private colleges, either. I looked at taking a math course at a branch campus of Penn State that's closer to my house than WCCC and it would cost me about $1,500 to take a 3 credit math course.

Yes, the cost of credits for the summer is (in a word) ridiculous. You're only recognizing it because there isn't any financial aid. I will be taking my summer courses at WCCC because I can; if I was forced to take them here I couldn't do it.

Amanda, if you've got to, take out a loan like the rest of us. We're all going to have debt inevitably. But you can pay it back, really, you can. It's not the say-all-be-all, and besides, you're young now and going to college makes more sense now. Take advantage of everything you can right now, even if it means paying for it later. This is the time to do these sorts of things... so do it. You would regret it otherwise.

Posted by: Karissa at April 19, 2005 2:45 PM


I understand your frustration-but look at it this way, you get what you pay for. You are getting an awesome experience that will more than pay for itself in the long run. $1500 is quite a large sum of money now, but 10-15 years down the road you will be thankful that you invested in YOURSELF.

As we are making these decisions again now, that is how we view it. School loans are daunting (we are still paying Craig's first ones), but both the interest and monthly payments are low. You are worth the investment in yourself---think of it in business terms. You are like your own business and have to put money into yourself to get a higher return on investment. Not everyone has the opportunity to invest in themselves the way you will this summer and that is going to put you ahead of the game. You will have your loans paid off quickly and soon you will be a high roller!!!!

Posted by: Amy at April 19, 2005 7:00 PM

I think SHU is teaching us humility:

"Um, can I pay for gas with pennies...ooo, check this out: I just found this beauty under my car seat--one whole quarter!"

I really don't know what I am going to do yet. I know I am going to do the internship, but the credits number is really up in the air right now.

I don't want to think about everything yet. I just wrote down everything that I have to do on my white board in my room, and it's looking pretty bleak. Getting through the next two weeks is enough. This subject is getting relocated to the outskirts of my mind for a while.

Posted by: Amanda at April 19, 2005 9:55 PM

I just guessing, but that white board you speak of is probably more of a "black board of death" right now like mine, isn't it? :-)

Anyway, Amy totally has the right idea--you need to invest in yourself, no matter what. And didn't you say you're getting paid some wonderful sum of money for this internship?? Then if I recall the correct figure you told me, it should only take you 5 weeks to earn enough to pay for the three credits. 3:5--that's an excellent ratio in terms of money. If you can do it that quickly, borrow it from your parents and pay them back ASAP since there wouldn't be any interest from First National Bank of Mom and Dad :-)

Posted by: Karissa at April 22, 2005 1:05 PM
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